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CBar (
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07.26.05 (5:37 am)
Very good idea, Dave!
I hope you find some takers!
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PastorDave (
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07.26.05 (11:45 am)
I'm looking for a good book to read. I've finished the autobiographies of Bill Clinton & Jane Fonda. Those certainly didn't change my life. I read A Brief History of Time by Steven Hawking, and it was quite a bit over-my-head. I read Intercessory Prayer by Dutch Sheets. Now I need a suggestion, and especially someone who thinks his/her book is important enought to "swap reads" with me.
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Fairmoon (
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07.26.05 (1:41 pm)
I'll take that challenge. but please don't recommend the Bible, its waaaayyyy over 300 pages and i've already read it. :D
my book suggestion to you is called "Never Again the Burning times, Paganism Revived" by loretta Orion. I'ts a horribly named book, I'll be the first to admit it. I hate the title. Too much shock value. Regardless of it's horrid name, it's written by a anthropologist (pleasse excuse the spelling) so dosen't have the bias that a pagan writting about pagans or a Christian writting about pagans would have.
It's a good book and explains the wiccathingy better than i can.
Up for it?
FM
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LeananSidhe (
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07.26.05 (3:25 pm)
Yes please!
I would love to book swap with you and I applaud your open mindedness :)
The book I have in mind is under 300 pages, only 190 in fact. It's called Already on Holy Ground; Experiencing the Presence in Ordinary Life by J.K. Bailey.
Please tmail me if you would like to swap with me.
Thanks...and I hope no matter what you read you take something from it for the better :)
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PastorDave (
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07.26.05 (5:17 pm)
Reply to: Fairmoon
Wow! So you challenge this conservative Christian minister to read a fair and objective book about Wicca? Now that is a strong challenge. Let me ponder this for a while...
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PastorDave (
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07.26.05 (5:26 pm)
Reply to: LeananSidhe
I did a quick Amazon search on this book, and found it interesting. What is the perspective of the writer- i.e. philosopher, pagan, Christian? How has this book made a difference for you?
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Fairmoon (
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07.26.05 (6:14 pm)
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yes i think you can handle the challenge. Feel free to hand me a 'conservative christian' book right back and I'll read it. Suggest to me one that (other than the bible) you might consider a cornerstone to your faith. Then we can chat about them both. and remember amazon sends books in plain brown packages so your neighbours will never know what you're 'getting into' teehee.
if you can't get it from your library, or don't want to buy it, let me know I'll mail you my copy :D
FM
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Fairmoon (
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07.27.05 (3:56 am)
good morning. I was thinking last night that if you weren't quite into 'getting down with pagans' just yet i'd suggest a few other books to you:
The Pagan Christ - tom harpur
The coming of the cosmic Christ- Matthew fox
why christianity must change of die- John Spong.
or any of the books by those above authors. all of them i've read (at least half of) and would love to reread them to discuss with you- and anyone else interested. Book club anyone?
let me know what you think of those titles,
FM
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LeananSidhe (
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07.27.05 (4:45 am)
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Good Morning, Dave :)
In my opinion the perspective of the writer is not one of a particular path or set of dogmas. It is the perspective of a human being who is seeking, just seeking spirituality for personal growth and understanding. I would say in his seeking he does experience some idea's and philosophies of some certain religions and spiritual paths but the book does not promote any one path.
For me, I found the book easy on the brain while still making you think. It's not such deep reading as to make you shake your head and wonder what he's talking about, therefore making it easy for people who are perhaps new on their spiritual journey to understand. I found it witty, funny, and true to life without being too light, if you know what I mean. I wouldn't say reading this book changed my life or even how I walk my path but what it did do was lead me to understand that whatever path one walks upon that there is no rush, it's not a race, and it can be simpler than we might have originally thought. It just doesn't have to be as difficult as we can sometimes make it. I also like that it is not geared to one spiritual path or another, that it is for anyone and everyone to read because we're human and all seek to understand ourselves and the devine a little further than we do now.
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07.27.05 (9:33 pm)
Dave anything by Nietszhe
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PastorDave (
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07.28.05 (1:21 am)
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And what have you read and recommend by Nietche?
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PastorDave (
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07.29.05 (1:55 am)
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I am interested in what you consider to be his most influential writing, in your life, and why.
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07.29.05 (11:13 am)
Pastor Dave:
My challenge to you is to read "The Prriest or The Warrior" by Francine Rivers. It is a novella. I have both of them and would be happy to mail them to you if you are up to mailing them back when you are finished? You decide... :)
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Kupov (
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07.29.05 (12:40 pm)
Pastor i actually suggest you read the wicca book it would definitly enrich your life or a book on islam any kind of philosophy anything that makes you think about Christianity both iys faults and pros, for starters see my blog :) lol, that was a joke in case one of those people whp hates my blog is reading
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PastorDave (
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08.01.05 (4:32 am)
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If you are still up for the book swap, I'd like to read your book. I can get it from my favorite place for used and new books, Amazon.com.
The book I would like for you to read is entitled "Celebration of Discipline" by Richard J. Foster. It's a short book (under 200 pages), well-written, and explores the spiritual disciplines of the Christian faith. The disciplines are grouped into three types--the inward disciplines of meditation, prayer, fasting, and study; the outward disciplines of simplicity, solitude, submission, and service; and the corporate or community disciplines of confession, worship, guidance, and celebration. The book is a classic. It has been around for many years. No need to purchase the "anniversary edition" or "newest revised and updated edition"; a second-hand, dog-earred original will suffice.
So I will read your recommendation, "Already on Holy Ground; Experiencing the Presence in Ordinary Life" by J.K. Bailey. And you read my recommendation, "Celebration of Discipline", by Richard Foster.
I will await your reply! And maybe a fellow blogger would like to join us in this endeavor?
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PastorDave (
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08.01.05 (4:50 am)
Reply to: Fairmoon
If I can read a book by Bill Clinton or Jane Fonda, and not get struck by lightning, than I imagine I can read a book about paganism. I'll read your book, if you are still interested in swapping reads. I'll read it with as much objectivity as I can, given my background and who I am. I'll ask you to afford my recommended book the same courtesy.
I suggest that you read "Mere Christianity" by C.S. Lewis. It is a classic, written in the 1940's by an English Professor at Cambridge University. Many people, searching for spiritual truth, have found this little book to be quite challenging.
Are you up to it? Let me know, and I will get on Amazon.com and order "Never Again the Burning Times, Paganism Revived" by Loretta Orion. I sure hope the content is more interesting than the title!
If there are others who want to join us with these books, let me know. It'll be fun, and maybe we can learn something together
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Fairmoon (
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08.01.05 (6:25 am)
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again i can't stress how most unfortunate the title of the book is. Really truely it could have been named much better.
I'm doing a library serach right now to see if my local library has it. IT DOES!
"Mere Christianity : a revised and amplified edition, with a new introduction, of the three books, Broadcast talks, Christian behaviour, and Beyond personality / C.S. Lewis.
by Lewis, C. S. (Clive Staples), 1898-1963."
is this the one you mean? just double checking. I've put it on hold so i'll get it in a day or two (todays a holiday in BC) and let you know.
Cool.
I'm looking forward to talking to you about these books. I'd be happy if other people join us too. :D I think i'll write a post about it for my blog and see if there are any takers.
you're going to be a busy reader over the next while! don't get eye strain. :P
FM
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Hypocracy (
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08.01.05 (7:19 pm)
Pastor Dave, I just stumbled upon your blog... ((Well, If stumbling can mean getting a link from someone else)), and I briefly skimmed over your blog. I find it very interesting indeed, and you interesting as well. I'd love to get to know you, perhaps discuss different opinions on different things. I just entered a Theology class, because I've always loved Theology, and I'd like to pray about it... But I am very interested in joining this "Book swap" with other people and/or you yourself. I look forward to a response from you.
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PastorDave (
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08.02.05 (2:08 am)
Reply to: Fairmoon
Found the book at half.com for a great price. It should be here in about a week. I appreciate the kind words in your recent blog. And, you are right, you don't really know what to expect in this commitment to upcoming dialogue. I can promise you I will seek to be fair and kind. Ours will probably be an interesting divergence, even clash, of spiritual views. I believe mature and genuine people can handle such.
Have a great day up there in beautiful BC.
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surrogate (
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08.02.05 (4:01 am)
Really cool idea...
I can never get through the Kama Sutra... I get confused by page twenty. (How in the hell can a person get in THAT position?)
I'll think of something... give me a suggestion when you think of one.
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Fairmoon (
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08.02.05 (4:33 am)
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theres the key word mature. :D i think we both can handle discussion and disagreement well, when its presented repectfully and i fully intend to honour that.
It's funny I started rereading the pagan book yesterday and taking a few notes etc... and I realized that i was reading it from a different perpective- almost trying to put myself in your shoes while reading the first few chapter.
Mam on man, from that perpective it kinds freaks me out. When you start reading let me know, because there's some stuff that i feel "i need to set straight" as it were.
(it's important to understand the the Gardner did things, isn't the way many groups do things today. When you read about Gardner keep in mind that if you read a book about the Catholic Church mass, although Christian like say Unitarian, the unitarian church does their services different.) it'll all make sense soon.
What do you think of the forum idea for discussion? beats these little comment books. let me know what you think.
I should be getting the CS lewis book tomorrow or thursday.
FM
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DrForbush (
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08.05.05 (9:41 am)
I read through the comments and i haven't seen what book you are going to recommend to us. I sort of expected that it would be the Bible, seeing that you are a conservative Christian minister, but I don't know of a copy that is less than 300 pages. Unless it had a really tiny font. I do remember reading that a guy copied a portion of the Bible onto a grain of rice, but I don't know who read it to verify that he actually did it.
Anyway, I don't know if I have one book to recommend, but I'm interested in your selection if it isn't the Bible. I've already read it.
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PastorDave (
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08.06.05 (10:41 am)
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Fairmoon & I have come to an agreement: She has challenged me to read "Never Again the Burning Times, Paganism Revived" by Loretta Orion, & I have asked her to read "Mere Christianity" by CS Lewis. I've oredered her book, but it has yet to arrive. She has started The Lewis book, & has some comments on her blog. Want to join us?
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PastorDave (
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08.10.05 (2:46 pm)
Reply to: Fairmoon
I received your book in the mail today. I'll get started on it maybe tomorrow. Looks challenging.
