Helluva Service !!??!!


Phil & Carla's Story


After a particularly meaningful worship service on a recent Sunday, Phil came up to me at the back of the church and said "Pastor, that was a hell of a service!" I smiled and said, "Phil, what I think you mean is, That was a great service." He laughed and said, "Yeah!".


Let me tell you Phil's story. He and Carla had been living together, outside of marriage, for many years. We in the church community have a name for such: Living in Sin. He had been deeply scarred from a very bad marriage. She had never been married. Somehow, and I think by the marvellous guidance of God, they became connected with our church. Soon they were attending most Sunday morning services and developing relationship with members of the congregation. After several months, Phil met with me and said he and Carla would like to be married in our church, and wanted to know if I would perform their wedding. He gave me several negatives that seemed to prevent other ministers from wanting to do such weddings: he was divorced, they were living together, neither were church members, and Carla had never had a conversion experience. I shared with them my usual policy, that if they would consent to four counselling/planning sessions, then I would gladly perform their wedding. I feel honored that two people would be willing to include Christ and myself in their wedding, when secular options are readily available. We began the sessions and I began to get to know these fine people. The wedding was still about 4 months away, when one Sunday morning Phil stepped forward to join the church. I had already addressed this possibility with the church leadership, and they felt that a person does not have to be perfect or have every area of their life correct in order to join with a body of believers. We do not kick people out of our church for imperfections, so how can we deny them for some particular imperfections, and say others are o.k.? So when Phil stepped forward, the church acepted him into membership at that very moment. Even though he was a "sinner". One man in the church stopped attending when this happened, saying I had allowed sin into our church. In reply, I said I'd just as soon have as a member an admitted sinner as a self-righteous judge. He did not appreciate my candor.


Phil and Carla were married. I was invited to the reception party, and I have to admit it was not your typical church meeting. Then, one day soon, Carla approached me with a desire to commit her life to Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior. She made the most sincere of commitments and was soon baptized. You should now meet this fine couple. They are so humble and kind in behavior and demeanor, ready to give a hug, and smiling and kidding with all. They sing in the choir and teach a children's Sunday School class. She bakes cakes for people with special needs. And I think the spark for this was because this church was so busy loving them that we hardly had time to judge.


"Hell of a service!", said Phil. My brother, we will help you to work on some of the terminology. And, you help us to work on some of our less than perfect aspects, and together we are in the process of making a pretty good family.



posted by: surrogate (reply)
post date: 10.14.05 (2:18 pm)

great post.



posted by: childish (reply)
post date: 10.14.05 (2:41 pm)

i wish the church would have more of a christlike approach when dealing with "sinners". did christ not say he came for the sick, not the well?
your church sounds like the exception to the rule.



posted by: BrandonSucks (reply)
post date: 10.14.05 (2:47 pm)

and this is why i hate organized religion.

living in sin?!? ugh.

that makes me sick.



posted by: PastorDave (reply)
post date: 10.14.05 (3:44 pm)

Reply to: surrogate
Appreciate that.



posted by: PastorDave (reply)
post date: 10.14.05 (5:24 pm)

Reply to: BrandonSucks

Thanks for your honest comment. I always appreciate when someone communicates with honesty. I'd like to give you a thoughtful reply to your challenge.

The teaching of the church, at least conservative biblically based Christian church, is abstinence before marriage and monogamy during marriage. Why? Because such is a clear teaching of the scriptures.

Here's my take on "Thou shalt not"s of the Bible. They are not there to rob you of fun, but to facilitate the quality of life. Sex is a wonderful gift of God. It is intended for the marraige relationship as a special communication and enjoyment. To engage outside of the marriage bond is to misuse this unique gift. It is also to treat another person with less respect than he/she deserve. And it is to show disrespect for God, to make a statement that you know better than God haw to govern human sexuality. I believe these three points make a proper case of why the scriptures give qualifications to human sexual behavior.

Now, the point of my story is our need to love others who fall short of our standards of behavior- to realize we have many of the same faults. I believe we encourage change in others best when we love them, not when we condemn them.



posted by: PastorDave (reply)
post date: 10.14.05 (5:28 pm)

Reply to: childish
I believe the church should take a stand on matters of right and wrong, including social issues. But we've got to love people, no matter the behavior. And, there is room in the church for the "sinner". I consider so many in the scriptures who are called by God even when they are quite imperfect. Paul, Peter, Woman at the Well, Woman caught in Adultery, etc.

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