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bawdy (
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06.30.07 (12:05 pm)
If he was a man when he did this, ok. But he was barely the girl's senior. It's ridiculous he's in jail, regardless of his race or character. This was consensual sexual relations between two teens. If you were to lock up all similar transgressors, thousands of young men would go to jail.
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07.03.07 (12:41 pm)
It is apparently clear that you are a racist redneck! Why would you set out to punch Mr. Wilson no one put a gun to the little slut's head and made her suck his dick! And lets not firget she sucked atleast 5 other dicks that night in question. Where were her white middle class parents hmm??
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PastorDave (
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07.03.07 (2:05 pm)
Reply to: Anonymous Critic
Let me deal with your insult first:
I may be a "racist redneck" in your estimation, but at least I'm not a coward by hurling invectives under the anonymity of the internet. Who are you? How can we have a dialog?
You don't understand why I would want to punch Mr. Wilson, given the scenario I presented? I said such would be my desire if he chose to treat my daughter in such a fashion. I believe almost any father would have the same feelings as a red-blooded human being. I'd be "racist" if such emotions were only directed toward someone of another race. But I'd desire to punch anyone who would treat any person, whom I love, in such an improper manner. Would you just whistle and smile and pat the guy on the back, if he were doing such to your sister or daughter or even your friend? I'd say you are not much of a man/woman if that's the case.
Your language. Again, you may label me a redneck, but I'm able to communicate and get my thoughts across without resorting to such gutter language. Yours sounds more like the words of a "redneck". Surely you can do better?
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LadyG (
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07.04.07 (10:18 am)
I am Lady G husband responding to you blog regarding the poor victimized girl.First let me state that I do have a daughter, and if my daughter participated in a scenario such as the one depicted by you with a young man of her age, the first thing that should be considered is the parents of the young girl how could the teaching of family values and morals allow a young lady to willingly participate in a scene like this that is recorded. She was neither a victim nor was she victimized. she was a willing participant and why she isn't incarcerated for performing a lewd act is a mystery to all law abiding citizens. Let Genarlow go.
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PastorDave (
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07.04.07 (6:46 pm)
Reply to: LadyG
Appreciate your reply. Please allow me to interact a bit. The behaviour of a teenager is not necessarily a fair reflection upon the family values and morals, nor the quality of parenting, of those who have raised her/him. By the very nature of the mysterious and crazy riddle that is a teenager, sometimes and even oftentimes they do stupid things. 15 year old girls and 17 year old boys. If you have steered and prayed your teenagers through this maze without major catastrophe, I think you should consider yourself highly blessed and even perhaps lucky, and I don't think you should point a finger at any family that has had a less favorable outcome. This girl did what she did because she was being a "stupid teenager". And, so did Wilson.
My desire to punch him: Wilson treated this girl as an object of sexual gratification. Not as a human being, not as someone's daughter, not as a human being deserving of respect. She was absolutely a willing participant and every bit as culpable as he. But a 15-year-old girl giving blow-jobs to football stars has a long way to go to maturity. Given time and opportunity and lots of help from parents and from above, she will one day become a responsible and decent person. A person as an adult who would think about those crazy teen years and shudder to consider such past behaviour. She's growing, she's maturing, and she needs to stay away from relationships with people like Wilson.
Did you notice the context of my statement? Here it is: "...If I was dad of that 15-year-old in the video, I'd try to find him and give him a few punches. And I'm not proud of such thoughts. But the Law should be of a nobler character..." Vengeance is not a noble or godly thing. Using language that I am familiar with, it is "worldly, of the flesh, ungodly, unchristian". Theoretically, if in anger and in an effort toward revenge, I would find Wilson and physically accost him, I would be doing the wrong thing. I would be handling matters most inappropriately. Justice, and even vengeance, is the responsibility of the law and not the individual. Again, theoretically, if I were to follow through with such behaviour, then I would expect to be arrested and incarcerated and perhaps even sued. Those would be appropriate consequences of such behaviour.
You say it is time to let Wilson go. I agree. I agree. He was not a nice guy at the time of the incident,in my estimation. But he has not committed a crime. Certainly he has done nothing to deserve ten years of incarceration, or even ten days, unless there are matters that I do not know. There are lots of horny teenaged boys out there who would be glad to receive the services given to Mr. Wilson on that night. I want them to stay away from any teenaged girls in any way that I may know. But I do not want them in jail. Hopefully they, too, will work through this crazy time of life and be productive members of society one day. Sending them to jail will serve no good purpose.
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LadyG (
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post date:
07.04.07 (9:29 pm)
Reply to: PastorDave, Good reply PD, You were answering my husband, I will have him read it.
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LadyG (
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07.04.07 (9:46 pm)
Reply to: PastorDave,Appreciate your thoughtful and in depth response to my reply, I agree with most of what you say. We have to quit playing the blame game in situations like this because it involves incriminating two willing people. what we have to do in today's world where females are considered sex objects and toys is to teach them self confidence and to be proud of who they are without being humiliated by participating in some lewd and lascivious act that will haunt them the rest of their life.
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Chanda (
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07.06.07 (12:47 am)
Genarlow has repeatedly admitted that he was wrong for his actions that night. And he has never appeared to be cocky. He has never refused to plea bargain and it's obvious that he does not want to be a martyr. The plea deals offered have been totally unacceptable - take the time understand the details and the legalities of the deals offered. He would be stupid to take those deals. As for being a martyr - he has always appeared to be humble, saddened, regretful and exhausted. You say you don't like Wilson b/c of his behavior. Well, you also shouldn't like the girl b/c her behavior was wrong also. You don't know Wilson and you don't know his heart. You are name-calling and being very judgmental( quote " cocky punk who likes to engage in recreational sex"). What about the 15 yr old? She likes to engage in recreational sex also. She knew what she was doing and wanted to do it. Wilson did not have to convince her. No one is saying that the girl must take some responsibilty for what happened that night. You state that she should stay away from boys like Wilson. Well, maybe he needs to stay away from girls like her. You state that she's growing and maturing. Well, so is Wilson. And it's not just black adolecents engaging in this behavior. So are white adolecents. Also, you stated that if this was your daughter the first thing you would do is punch Genarlow. Maybe first you need to slap your daughter and ask her why she would degrade herself. Society needs to open their eyes and see that these young girls are presenting themselves in a very sexual manner. Now, they approach the boys and initiate sex. The boys and girls are both at fault. We as a society must also take some responsibilty. We advertise sex on tv, on the internet, and in the music as being casual and common. Why a surprise when our youth engage in such vulgar behavior?
posted by:
heavyarms (
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07.06.07 (10:05 am)
Let me play devil's advocate and say that The Law does stipulate that a 17-year-old cannot have sex (oral or otherwise) with a person deemed "underage." That the offender was only two years her senior is irrelevant. The fact is, he broke The Law and, regardless of whether or not we think it is FAIR, he should be punished under The Law if we want to be a nation governed by laws.
Is the law unfair? Perhaps, though I don't know that I would feel quite as ambivalent if my daughter was the 15-year-old in question (OR if it were my 17-year-old son, for that matter.) But just because we feel that a law is unfair does not mean we get to ignore it. Hell, the 30 mile commute I drive every day to work is basically one continuous construction zone and, as a result, the speed limit is lowered to 60 mph (interstate), even though for the most part I never see anyone actually WORKING in the area. I don't think it's fair to drop the speed limit for the whole interstate when they are only working on a tiny little portion (if they are working at all), but if I got caught speeding and the nearest road workers were 5 miles away, would anyone argue that me being ticketed is unfair? The purpose of lowering the speed limit is to protect road workers, just like the purpose of the law under which Mr. Wilson is charged is to protect underage victims. We can seek to change laws we think unfair but that doesn't mean we can ignore them.
What aggravates me is that if the genders were reversed, if it were a 15-year-old boy performing oral sex on a 17-year-old girl, would there have been any forthcoming punishment? Probably not, which to me is an indication that the law should be reviewed since we are not guaranteed equal treatment under the law.
I, for one, am of the opinion that if we are going to decide when someone is an "adult" and when they are not, it ought to be one uniform age. How is it that a 17-year-old can be "adult" enough to consent to have sex, but it is not until they are 18 that they are "adult" enough to vote, and not until they are 21 that they are "adult" enough to drink? My personal opinion is that the decision to have sex is the most consequential of the three.
posted by:
PastorDave (
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post date:
07.09.07 (7:31 am)
Reply to: Chanda
Thank you for a thoughtful and quite challenging reply. My familiarity with this case comes from two sources: the media- which always has an agenda, and my own experience raising three teenagers & working quite a bit with teens through the years. Teenagers are exasperating. Those who behave like Wilson and this girl come from all kinds of socio-economic & religious backgrounds.
You and I agree the young man needs to be freed. I unerstand the hesitation of the Georgia Attorney General for the sake of legal precedent. Yet, even though it will complicate matters, what is right needs to be done.
Perhaps I'll interact more with your rely when time permits. Thanks.
He's been there for 28 months. His crime? At age 17 he had oral sex with a 15-year-old. And, being a stupid teenager, there are videos giving voyoueristic evidence to the whole ordeal. Wilson insisted upon his innocence, refused to plea bargain, and was found guilty by a jury of his peers. He was sentenced to ten years in jail A judge recently ruled it was time to let him go. The Attorney General of Georgia, a black and a Democrat, has appealed. And so the saga continues. Why is the kid still in jail? I've a few opinions! 
