Cursing And Cussing And Grace

Cursing
Strictly defined, a curse is a formula of words intended to bring calamity or misfortune upon another.  Many have believed, throughout history, the ability to call down a curse upon others with an exacting string of words.  Such sounds quite primitive to me.  I've never even considered calling upon the forces of darkness to bring sickness or injury upon someone with whom I am offended.  When I was irritated at the elevator that suddenly would not function, certainly I was not wishing for it to implode or melt in fervent heat.  In the past, I've had persons use rather salty language in expressing dislike or disapproval toward me, but I am pretty sure they were not seeking a literal realization of their verbal barbs.  I have no intent to go to Hell, and no fear from the occasional contrary wishes of another.

Vulgarity
As I understand, it is the intentional use of words that lack good taste and propriety, and often refer to crude subjects like embarrassing bodily functions and excrement.  Think about red-neck humor, Larry The Cable Guy & company, ...surrogate.  Now I will be honest- I did not grow up having breakfast at Tiffany's, and so I can appreciate the humor within crudeness.  But I also know that in the context of most social settings and relationships in which I find myself, such is just not appropriate. 

Blasphemy
It is a contempt for God expressed in thought, word, or action.  Out of reverence for God, I steer clear of blasphemy.  I believe God loves me, and try to live and relate in a manner that expresses love in return.  As it would be injurious to hear the name of my wife or child used in contempt, even more so I am quite uncomfortable to hear a verbal insult of God.  Oh, I think God can handle such.  Likely there will be no bolt of lightning in store for the next person who shakes a fist at God.  And the vast majority of those who "use God's name in vain" are simply displaying ignorance or laziness of verbal skills, probably more in line with vulgarity than blasphemy.  But many are serious about God. And surely those who are thoughtful and decent will avoid the intentional use of such language.

Cussing
These are not words intended to belittle or demean, nor hate speech.  And I know the word "cuss" is simply a colloquialism likely to be avoided by one with good speech habits.  But it is an appropriate term for this inappropriate, but highly common, word usage.  To cuss, I think, is to choose to use crude and at least slightly offensive terminology in crafting a statement or response.  Sometimes we say "it slips out".  But let's be honest.  It was in there all along.  It came out most likely because, at the moment, we determined it was the best way to express what we were thinking.

Let me tell you a little bit about myself:
*I think I have at my disposal a fairly good vocabulary.  At my disposal, in any given situation, will be a variety of words from which I can choose to express myself.  I do not have to cuss because of a limited vocabulary.

*I understand the importance of social deportment.  I would not want a poor choice of words to reflect badly upon those connected with me.  For instance, I could not imagine using a cuss word in a sermon, or in any kind of connection with my church.  I would not talk in such way with my mom, or in meeting a new neighbor.  Respect for others and for those I represent precludes such language.

*When I hear cuss words used, most often I do not make a big deal of the matter.  I understand people develop speech habits for a variety of reasons.  While I avoid the use of such language, I try to be quick to offer grace in listening to others.  If the language becomes too crude, generally I will simply be quiet or walk away.  And most people are smart enough to appropriately adjust the choice of language.

*I know there is a class of person out there, most often religious and connected with my brand of the Christian faith, very quick to express offense and disapproval of the missteps of others.  This person finds a quiet glee in making note of the imperfections of others.  As they lower another, they feel raised to a higher notch.  So I try to be on zealous guard when around such persons.  I mind my p's and q's, and often find myself utilizing the "language of zion" for their appeasement.  I think I do such because I know such people are dangerous.  But the problems is there are just so many of them.  And they seem to show up, with lazar eyesight and highly sensitive ears, at my most vulnerable moments.  Which brings me to a final point...

*I am a sinner.  I may play many roles in life, but those who know me best will have to nod their heads in agreement, "That guy has his faults.".  I'll compare my speech habits with those of most.  And I wonder what the Pope says when he stubs his toe first thing in the morning?  One can express surprise, frustration, anger, exasperation in many ways.  I am of the opinion many of those expressions still can be technically defined as "cussing", even if they do not sound like the equivalent word for "a barrier constructed to contain the flow of water".

Final Thoughts
Sunday night we had our monthly Church Business Conference.  Our volunteer Youth Minister stood to give his report of the activities and plans of the ministry to teenagers.  I know him to be a good guy, with a genuine heart to love God and serve others.  He also gets nervous when in front of a crowd and thus tends to keep talking far beyond the point.  So he was rambling about various things with most of his audience tuning out, when I caught the end of run-on sentence.  "... like us Old Farts!"  In the company of prim and proper church folk, with a big cross casting its shadow upon the lectern, this guy deigned to say "fart" in the church.  We all definitely heard the word.  It was very much out of place.  There was nervous laughter.  And he knew he said the wrong thing immediately after the word came out.  But it was too late!  He rambled on through his report.  Then I stood to continue the meeting.  I looked back to see mostly a smiling group of people who thought it humorous that this guy had unintentionally said the wrong thing.  But there were also a couple of red-faced, disapproving persons.  First I said to our recording secretary, "How about let's be sure to strike that one sentence from our church minutes?"  Everyone laughed, and agreed.  And the meeting went on.

Grace.
  Now, that's never a cuss word!



posted by: emerging (reply)
post date: 03.13.09 (8:02 am)

You did a great job breaking all of that down and defining it. Wonderful post. I still think that, no matter how comprehensive your vocabulary, there are some situations that are so outrageous that they warrant the use of vulgarity. When the excrement hits the fan and it's not evenly distributed, then the situation itself is vulgar.



posted by: tampi (reply)
post date: 03.13.09 (8:09 am)

it is the way one is brought,i have never heard my parents use any kind of profanity or vulgarity in our home.but i live in the principle of eye for an eye.



posted by: OldSchool (reply)
post date: 03.13.09 (8:21 am)

Interesting post.

I am definitely on both sides of the fence on this topic.

I feel what you say is only one part of your interaction with others -and not the most important. I am much more concerned with what people DO rather than what they say. You can say all the right things, but if your actions are not in line with those words, I find that much worse than the converse. I am much more likely to tolerate saying the wrong things if that person DOES the right things.

I am not easily offended. I have to say that I would not even blink if someone said the word "fart" in Church. I would not choose that word myself, but do not consider it vulgar. I think I have been desensitized to borderline vulgarity over time.

Like I said, I can see both sides of the story on this one. I find myself on both sides, so it is not a clear cut issue for me personally.

I thought it would be appropriate to say that I hope you all have a great #@%*ing weekend! Ha, ha.



posted by: surrogate (reply)
post date: 03.13.09 (11:40 am)

Reply to: OldSchool

Brilliantly said.




posted by: surrogate (reply)
post date: 03.13.09 (11:47 am)

You couldn't lump me in with George Carlin or Lewis Black, or any one of a half-a-zillion cursers I really like? I mean really, Larry the Cable Guy? Ouch.

Git'er done, my a**.






posted by: bawdy (reply)
post date: 03.13.09 (1:15 pm)

"old farts" is more a term of endearment if you ask me, and completely acceptable in any setting, even church.



posted by: RebeccaNelle (reply)
post date: 03.13.09 (1:44 pm)

I asked you on the other post relative to this subject for specific scriptures. You haven't provided those yet, or even answered me. Not to be rude in asking again, but 'damn' isn't taking the Lord's name in vain, nor is 'hell', or even the dreaded 'f-word'. So where are the scriptures that say not to curse? I'm not baiting you, I really want to know.





posted by: PastorDave (reply)
post date: 03.13.09 (2:27 pm)

Reply to: RebeccaNelle
Hey, I'll get to that! You will notice I intentionally work to make this something other than your typical religious or "Christian" blog. There is not a whole lot of scripture quoting or preaching- in my opinion, although I'm sure some of these folk would disagree. Now, I believe the Bible as God's Word and His instruction book for life has much to say about how we communicate with words. I have two more blogs to share about this subject, and one will deal with scriptures.

Sorry about not replying to your previous comment. I highly appreciate anyone taking the time to read what I have to say, and then to craft a respectful reply. You deserve better, and if I weren't so disorganized and lazy, I would have already responded. Thanks!




posted by: PastorDave (reply)
post date: 03.13.09 (2:28 pm)

Reply to: bawdy
You must attend the Old Farts Church, at Fifth & Vine?



posted by: PastorDave (reply)
post date: 03.13.09 (2:31 pm)

Reply to: surrogate
I've a church member who actually served a while as Larry's private pilot. He said the guy is extremely nice, a great tipper, speaks without an accent, and is very smart. And, he's quite religious. I don't know what kind of a tipper you are.



posted by: PastorDave (reply)
post date: 03.13.09 (2:33 pm)

Reply to: OldSchool
Great point. I know plenty of persons whose language is regularly salted with profanities, yet they are persons of integrity whom I would probably trust more than some religious folk I know who would never utter a curse word.



posted by: PastorDave (reply)
post date: 03.13.09 (2:35 pm)

Reply to: tampi
I admire the verbal discipline of your parents. Now, the eye-for-an-eye thing can become rather painful, sometimes.



posted by: PastorDave (reply)
post date: 03.13.09 (2:39 pm)

Reply to: emerging
Well I hate to agree with you.... I do not think my line of work allows me much use of profanity. However, I spent a Semester in Seminary working with the chaplains of a local hospital, and some of those guys were quite colorful with their language, with seemingly no apology or hesitation. I think smart and sensitive people can generally find a way to communicate quite well without resorting to cursing, or cussin'. But, in this post I've tried to make the point that for most of us a curse word is not a fatal slip of the tongue, but actually an intended choice of words. I'm so out of control that the words slip out. Now, maybe I make a poor choice with the words. That's a different story.



posted by: PastorDave (reply)
post date: 03.13.09 (2:41 pm)

Reply to: emerging
"...I'm NOT so out of control that the words slip out."

I left but one little word out, and it changed the whole intention of what I was saying! Wow. A reminder of the power of our choice of words.



posted by: surrogate (reply)
post date: 03.13.09 (3:31 pm)

Reply to: PastorDave

Yeah, I've seen footage of him prior to his "Cable Guy" routine. He seems very smart. I'm just not into this act too much. On the other hand, I've seen all his specials and I'm sure I'll watch them roast him on comedy central this weekend. I'm sure it'll be funny and lewd - just my cup of tea.



posted by: bawdy (reply)
post date: 03.14.09 (1:01 pm)

Reply to: PastorDave

Yes, and they serve wonderful bean casseroles at church gatherings.



posted by: surrogate (reply)
post date: 03.16.09 (5:49 am)

Reply to: PastorDave

I take it back. I watched the roast. It was too lewd, even for me.



posted by: PastorDave (reply)
post date: 03.16.09 (6:29 am)

Reply to: surrogate
I caught a little bit of his act, on Comedy Central last night. It was awful. I remember him from the old Jeff Foxworthy specials, an he was just a tad off-color but still funny. This stuff last night was putrid, in my opinion. Literally he was talking about stuff that a fourth grader would find to be immature. Yet, the audience would be panned by the camera, to find classy-looking and smart-looking people actually enjoying the jokes. Perhaps they felt the need to laugh because they had each spent $40 to hear such junk-labeled-humor? They say this guy gets a quarter million dollars for his act. I'm predicting his 15-minutes-of-fame is about up.



posted by: surrogate (reply)
post date: 03.16.09 (6:57 am)

Did you see the very end of the roast? He got his chance to respond to all the other folks who'd razzed him for an hour and JUST before he said goodnight he did a couple of lines from Shakespeare in an English accent - I can't remember what the soliloquy was from - maybe Richard the Third? - but, it was obvious he did it to "prove" he can be something other than this character. I wonder if he's not getting tired of it himself. On the other hand, they kept saying he gets a quarter million a night these days; thirty mil last year alone. Suppose that's a little hard to give up, ya know, times being what they are.

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